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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://storiesonline.org/blog/2006/12/30/scoring-changes-implementation-follow-up/#comment-203</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 11:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I find the biggest continuing problem is that people are way, way too nice when they score. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are stories that are getting 8,9,9 or 9,9,9 when they are technically utter garbage and the plot is a huge yawner from start to finish with nothing innovative in it at all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &lt;i&gt;average&lt;/i&gt; story on SoL should be getting 5,5,5. When you&#039;d see something get 9,9,9 you should darn near wet yourself in your eagerness to read it. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unfortunately, these days, anything that is mostly legible is scoring in the 8&#039;s or 9&#039;s at least, making the score only useful for weeding out the worst of the worst which scores less than that. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Overinflated scoring is bad for everyone. The writer doesn&#039;t get the proper signals sent to him (ie, &quot;practice more, you write like a drugged chimp&quot;) and goes around thinking he&#039;s Shakespeare reincarnated, and the readers have to wade hip-deep through dreck to find the few nuggets of gold buried in the pile of high scorers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not sure if there is any good solution for that, but it&#039;s still a pain. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;/Croft</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I find the biggest continuing problem is that people are way, way too nice when they score. </p>
<p>There are stories that are getting 8,9,9 or 9,9,9 when they are technically utter garbage and the plot is a huge yawner from start to finish with nothing innovative in it at all.</p>
<p>The <i>average</i> story on SoL should be getting 5,5,5. When you&#8217;d see something get 9,9,9 you should darn near wet yourself in your eagerness to read it. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, these days, anything that is mostly legible is scoring in the 8&#8242;s or 9&#8242;s at least, making the score only useful for weeding out the worst of the worst which scores less than that. </p>
<p>Overinflated scoring is bad for everyone. The writer doesn&#8217;t get the proper signals sent to him (ie, &#8220;practice more, you write like a drugged chimp&#8221;) and goes around thinking he&#8217;s Shakespeare reincarnated, and the readers have to wade hip-deep through dreck to find the few nuggets of gold buried in the pile of high scorers.</p>
<p>Not sure if there is any good solution for that, but it&#8217;s still a pain. </p>
<p>/Croft</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Snow</title>
		<link>http://storiesonline.org/blog/2006/12/30/scoring-changes-implementation-follow-up/#comment-202</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 05:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SOL still posts quicker than Literotica.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I personally preferred the simpler voting system.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I genuinely like both sites for different reasons. As a newbie, I just wanted to point out my experience with the new system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SOL still posts quicker than Literotica.</p>
<p>I personally preferred the simpler voting system.</p>
<p>I genuinely like both sites for different reasons. As a newbie, I just wanted to point out my experience with the new system.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://storiesonline.org/blog/2006/12/30/scoring-changes-implementation-follow-up/#comment-201</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I now am making a genuine attempt to use the expanded scoring system.  I suspect that I still score above Lazeez expectations.  I probably would not finish a story that I would score below 7 in any category nor would I finish one that I would score below an 8 average.  This seems consistent with the scores on stories before I start them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I really like that I can update scores as I read subsequent chapters.  I sometimes misunderstand where an author is going with a story and am overenthusiastic initially.  Thus, I am more likely to uppdate the score I give to a story to lower scores than higher.  On the other hand, I am much more willing to score a story with only a few chapters posted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I now am making a genuine attempt to use the expanded scoring system.  I suspect that I still score above Lazeez expectations.  I probably would not finish a story that I would score below 7 in any category nor would I finish one that I would score below an 8 average.  This seems consistent with the scores on stories before I start them.</p>
<p>I really like that I can update scores as I read subsequent chapters.  I sometimes misunderstand where an author is going with a story and am overenthusiastic initially.  Thus, I am more likely to uppdate the score I give to a story to lower scores than higher.  On the other hand, I am much more willing to score a story with only a few chapters posted.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://storiesonline.org/blog/2006/12/30/scoring-changes-implementation-follow-up/#comment-200</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 23:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I took a few months off and I came back, debating on whether to post the 20 odd stories I&#039;ve written and looking around and I saw something about scores...so I looked at my stories and now I have no idea what the scores mean, except I must really suck as a writer. And I don&#039;t, I know that, so um...Jeez Lazeez, I don&#039;t think I wanna post here anymore. I&#039;m not banging on you, my issue has ever been with anybody&#039;s retarded little brother being able to influence a third person&#039;s decision of whether or not to read a story. Not much way around it though, I know. People like scores, authors like high scores, life is a beauty contest, blah blah. How about two scores? One for &quot;GR - General Readership&quot; which are persons who have submitted less than say 5 stories, and another for &quot;Authors&quot; - being persons who have posted 5 or more stories and thus my loosely be defined as someone who understands writing/posting and being judged. Maybe this is all pointless, I dunno. -rache</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took a few months off and I came back, debating on whether to post the 20 odd stories I&#8217;ve written and looking around and I saw something about scores&#8230;so I looked at my stories and now I have no idea what the scores mean, except I must really suck as a writer. And I don&#8217;t, I know that, so um&#8230;Jeez Lazeez, I don&#8217;t think I wanna post here anymore. I&#8217;m not banging on you, my issue has ever been with anybody&#8217;s retarded little brother being able to influence a third person&#8217;s decision of whether or not to read a story. Not much way around it though, I know. People like scores, authors like high scores, life is a beauty contest, blah blah. How about two scores? One for &#8220;GR &#8211; General Readership&#8221; which are persons who have submitted less than say 5 stories, and another for &#8220;Authors&#8221; &#8211; being persons who have posted 5 or more stories and thus my loosely be defined as someone who understands writing/posting and being judged. Maybe this is all pointless, I dunno. -rache</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://storiesonline.org/blog/2006/12/30/scoring-changes-implementation-follow-up/#comment-199</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of those score numbers are meaningless to me, and I can&#039;t find anything in the help area to explain what they mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of those score numbers are meaningless to me, and I can&#8217;t find anything in the help area to explain what they mean.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://storiesonline.org/blog/2006/12/30/scoring-changes-implementation-follow-up/#comment-198</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like QScore is just an approximation of percentile. It would seem far simpler to explain and to calculate if you just use percentile!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like QScore is just an approximation of percentile. It would seem far simpler to explain and to calculate if you just use percentile!</p>
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		<title>By: just-this-guy</title>
		<link>http://storiesonline.org/blog/2006/12/30/scoring-changes-implementation-follow-up/#comment-197</link>
		<dc:creator>just-this-guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 10:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With my &quot;reader hat&quot; on, here is an initial observation regarding TPA scores.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A story can be very high in grammar (T), but be an uninspiring and dull plot(P) and have little personal appeal (A).  A story like that &lt;i&gt;may&lt;/i&gt; have a vote like 9,5,5.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think many voters are giving the same score for each category regardless of what each category means, so they vote 5,5,5 instead.&lt;br /&gt;There is nothing one can do about it except hope more voters think before clicking submit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With my &#8220;reader hat&#8221; on, here is an initial observation regarding TPA scores.</p>
<p>A story can be very high in grammar (T), but be an uninspiring and dull plot(P) and have little personal appeal (A).  A story like that <i>may</i> have a vote like 9,5,5.</p>
<p>I think many voters are giving the same score for each category regardless of what each category means, so they vote 5,5,5 instead.<br />There is nothing one can do about it except hope more voters think before clicking submit.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://storiesonline.org/blog/2006/12/30/scoring-changes-implementation-follow-up/#comment-196</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 02:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree with a lot of .B and Asa Strong&#039;s points, I do enjoy the ability to tell an author I like thir storie&#039;s plot and that the subject appeals to me, but that there grammar and speeling suck.  Being unable to do that kept me from voting on a lot of stories, because I didn&#039;t want to give it a blanket trashing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree with a lot of .B and Asa Strong&#8217;s points, I do enjoy the ability to tell an author I like thir storie&#8217;s plot and that the subject appeals to me, but that there grammar and speeling suck.  Being unable to do that kept me from voting on a lot of stories, because I didn&#8217;t want to give it a blanket trashing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://storiesonline.org/blog/2006/12/30/scoring-changes-implementation-follow-up/#comment-195</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 01:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lazeez it might help if, somewhere on the voting form, you noted that 10 was the high score.  New readers have no clue.&lt;br /&gt;Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lazeez it might help if, somewhere on the voting form, you noted that 10 was the high score.  New readers have no clue.<br />Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://storiesonline.org/blog/2006/12/30/scoring-changes-implementation-follow-up/#comment-194</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 10:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since there semms to be all the hullabaloo and controversy over scoring, why not simply drop the voting and scoring altogether?  It wouldn&#039;t hurt an otherwise excellent site.  I seldom even look at scores, and never vote;  instead, I go by the blurb and the story codes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since there semms to be all the hullabaloo and controversy over scoring, why not simply drop the voting and scoring altogether?  It wouldn&#8217;t hurt an otherwise excellent site.  I seldom even look at scores, and never vote;  instead, I go by the blurb and the story codes.</p>
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